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Rodge
08-12-2006, 04:25 AM
First off, a brief history lesson (If I make mistakes, pls point them out, I'm not perfect).

CnC1 or Tiberium Dawn: Nod Evil, GDI Good...
If your choice was Nod you could shoot civilians without force fire, GDI couldn't.

CnC2 or Tiberium Sun and Firestorm: well, Nod Evil, GDI Good
Nod was beeing manipulated by CABAL, untill GDI took over CABAL after wich CABAL made a power move.

CnC3 or Tiberium Wars: Nod Evil, DGI Good?
The game isn't out yet, but you could assume the same...

Now, is this correct? This good guys, bad guys statement...
Beeing good is defined as following moral standards, and moral standards are defined as the general behavior or man.
Meaning, the largest population sets the moral standard.

If we follow this reasoning, is Nod as evil as may appear? Now, in Europe we have certain behavior, wich is completely different in lets say Asia. But GDI and Nod are global associations.

In TD Nod was on the rise of it's power, they destroyed everything in their path,
in TS and FS GDI and Nod's militairy and population power were somewhat equal.
Now in TW GDI only has about 20% of earth surface, so there is a moral shift...
Now The Brotherhood's Idea's could be considered the moral standard... Or not?

Is GDI too stuborn to admit they are wrong?
Are they abbandoning those in need?
Is The Brotherhood as evil as GDO wants everyone too believe?

What do you all think?

Luk3us
08-12-2006, 06:03 AM
According to that Spanish interview which is somewhere... They're trying to move away from the "generic" good vs evil deal. Well at least as far as GDI and Nod are concerned.

Besides being good or evil depends on what side your looking at it from. ;)

chickendippers
08-12-2006, 09:00 AM
It doesn't matter who control the majority of the planet, there are still basic human rights - that sets the moral base level.

MadBadger
08-12-2006, 10:28 AM
Just when did GDI take over CABAL?

All I remember was CABAL rebelling against Nod and killing all the Commanders but 2....

GDI is made up of western nations (including Japan etc) we base good as what we see.... Nod being Africa and asia sees good/bad differently....

GDI has abandoned 80% of the planet and the people init..... I see that as Bad.... Least Nod is helping ;)

And in TS the armys were not the same! GDI had Titans as they were tracking small splinter cells down.... all they did was gather the cells under one name ;)

CnC3 is the first time the armys will be equal :D

Rodge
08-12-2006, 12:38 PM
According to that Spanish interview which is somewhere... They're trying to move away from the "generic" good vs evil deal. Well at least as far as GDI and Nod are concerned.

Besides being good or evil depends on what side your looking at it from.
That's the whole idea of this thread, what is good, what is evil, it used to be very clear, in TB, TS and FS it was clear, but that can't be said anymore...


It doesn't matter who control the majority of the planet, there are still basic human rights - that sets the moral base level.
Yes, that is ALSO true, but it is easy to reply to that, who defends them now best? Nod by giving ppl a purpose or GDI by abbandoning them?



Just when did GDI take over CABAL?

All I remember was CABAL rebelling against Nod and killing all the Commanders but 2....

Firestorm GDI Campaign mission 5 or 6, GDI needed CABAL to translate that orby thing (name slipped my mind atm)
When they brought CABAL online he told GDI there was a missing piece to the info. After the missing piece was connected CABAL kinda went ballistic and started killing everyone...



GDI is made up of western nations (including Japan etc) we base good as what we see.... Nod being Africa and asia sees good/bad differently....

True, hence my Europe/China comparison



GDI has abandoned 80% of the planet and the people init..... I see that as Bad.... Least Nod is helping ;)

Yes, I have that same idea, allthough, it makes me wonder, Nod is helping allright, but are they helping ppl further down the drain, that is the question...




And in TS the armys were not the same! GDI had Titans as they were tracking small splinter cells down.... all they did was gather the cells under one name ;)

As I said, I don't have all the facts straight... Thanks for this (Probably the reason why Nod needed the Stealth Technology)



CnC3 is the first time the armys will be equal :D

Let's wait and see about that...

MadBadger
08-12-2006, 03:01 PM
Yes, I have that same idea, allthough, it makes me wonder, Nod is helping allright, but are they helping ppl further down the drain, that is the question...

As I said, I don't have all the facts straight... Thanks for this (Probably the reason why Nod needed the Stealth Technology)


#1 Err.... Nod ARE helping..... :rolleyes:

#2 yeah thats right w/ the stealth tec :ya:

Rodge
08-12-2006, 03:49 PM
don't take this wrong, but saying they ARE helping is a lill shortsighted...

suppose a man that wants to kill himself by jumping of a bridge into a river. If you help him tie himself to a rock you ARE helping, but you should help him by telling him how wrong it is what he's doing...

Luk3us
09-12-2006, 03:20 AM
The Brotherhood can do no evil. ;)

ger0
28-12-2006, 04:46 PM
Nod is the best woth there slow tanks etc but there stong but Gdi got fast but so i think nod evil gdi good so nod winS lol

Cabal
29-12-2006, 11:40 AM
Well the good guys aren't always the good guys as shown in this article (http://www.cncworld.org/?page=features/articles/goodguys) i wrote rather badly 6 years ago. In 2 weeks you'll have all the community reports and game previews from the C&C3 community summit which will have some interesting updates on the topic being discussed here.

Luk3us
29-12-2006, 12:39 PM
It saddens me that you are all affected so badly by GDI propaganda. People all you need to do is open your eyes and see your true enemy. Embrace the Brotherhood and save humanity from the insanity that is GDI.

Cabal
30-12-2006, 01:34 AM
Lol. I think NOD are cooler but theres just something that always draws me to GDI.